New member with a 1968 DS1(rigging pics pg 6-7)

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Re: New member with a DS1

Postby igotit » Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:28 pm

Ive got about 17-18 miles on the motor,my only complaint....if you fill gas tank full it will vent out alittle fuel from the cap.
And i had to open fuel screw open 1 full turn to run perfectly.common issue from what ive read,in china fuel is set to run good in their enviroment and atmosphere.
Other grip is its only available in 15" not 20" shaft.easily solved with a kicker mount thou.
15 get the job done well,but in rough water she will cavitate.
Its quiet,smooth and reliable for $300-400.....hard to beat.
Im impressed with it,ive had thoughts about mounting the lower unit in the hulll....make a mini sail drive out of it.but dont think im gonna do that to this hull.
I bought my dad 1 of these to use as a rescue motor.hes a commercial fisherman.....this would be a backup to get him out the lake.his boat is way to heavy to paddle.
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Re: New member with a DS1

Postby GreenLake » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:53 pm

Silicone and gelcoat don't mix, if you ever need to paint anything you won't be able to get it out, I'm told.

The cutouts are intended to save weight at the end of the boat, something that may make a bit of difference when racing. My rudder actually floats with enough buoyancy that it can supports its own weight. Therefore, any further weight reduction would be limited to its effect on pitching. Not sure how critical that is.
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Re: New member with a DS1

Postby igotit » Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:16 pm

finally had free time to start grinding away the old paint/glass and start on the repairs.the trunk crack wasnt nearly as bad as it looked once sanded.will still apply a few layers of matt and resin.also removed the brass drain block from center,guessing this is used when storing on the hard.....remove the plug.wont be needed for my use.removed the 2 unused blocks ontop the trunk,and the damaged thwart mounts.
next i need to remove the old transom and address a few cracks on the seat to hull joint.
slowly getting there.

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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby GreenLake » Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:08 am

When using fiberglass mat, you know that there is a difference between types - some types use a binder that works only for polyester resin, so you need the epoxy compatible stuff. Not an issue for cloth. But you knew that already, I bet.

You write that you want to add "several" layers. I would have expected a smaller number, more like "a couple". When in doubt, I take a few patches and do a sample layup on my bench, always surprised how strong even a few layers are. You may mostly need them at the crack, with some nice staircasing (tapering the thickness) to avoid hard spots.

Good call on removing the drain. I glassed mine over from the bottom, having bothered to take it out. Not needed. Easy to angle the trailer to let it drain from the stern drain if needed.

Good luck. Will you make it to the water this season (or are you in a place where the summer's too hot?).
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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby igotit » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:29 pm

I chose 2.5oz angel hair cloth with polyester resin.just laid the first 6" wide layer (3" on the hull and 3" on the trunk side).next pass will be 4",then a 2".should be plenty strong enough to last another 40 years....lol.
Ive got some 1/4 fiberglass angle im gonna glass in for the thwart mounts,also adding another layer to the trunk side walls,its thin for my liking.after all this i shouldnt have much flex.ill adress the cracks where the seats meet the bottom and transom in a day or 2.

Ill make it to the water this season forsure,stays hot down here till late october before we get cold fronts.but most times its in the 80s thru december.our cold comes around mid january to febuary.
Its never too hot to be in a boat....lol
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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby GreenLake » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:46 pm

Looks like "u got it" as your forum name says. Good luck!
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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby igotit » Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:33 am

i believe i got it.....lol
sofar im at 2 layers of 2.5 around the trunk base,4 layers wrapping the rear and covering the old drain.and 2 layers that wrap from the floor over the trunk.shes solid already,and doesnt move like before when i would give it a good bump.
letting the last layer cure in my limited sunshine,think i may call it good.used about half gal of resin sofar,and roughly 40x50 in of 2.5 oz angel hair mat.
next ill work on the thwart brackets.
a few weeks ago i went have fun and sink her to test flotation,she floated well with no rigging and full of water.but i did notice my foam filled seats hold water,and foam core is wet.so maybe this upcoming winter ill take care of this.i seen some folks simply install a 8" hatch on the front the seats,pull out the foam and install pool noodles.my foam seems to be a 2 part poured style......in mind the best way to remove is to remove the entire seats and start fresh,then glass her back together,may add a storage compartment at the same time if i go that route.im not racing,so adding weight isnt a concern of mine.
another future project is to take care of the osmosis/blisters on the hull.its not terrible but 1/16th to 1/8 dia blisters litter the hull.i guess if i could put them all in a pile id have a 4ft x 4ft spread of them.not bad considering the hulls size.i just dont wanna spend the whole season doing repairs.so ill repair the most critical for now.
anyway heres a few pics of the ruff work.....nothing fancy.
weve got a low pressure system creeping up on us trying to develop into a depression,gonna really put a dent on my progress.

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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby igotit » Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:46 pm

new transom will be a 3/8 thick 7"x16.5" solid glass sheet.should be alot stronger than factory 1/2 ply........plus it will never rot.
out with the old,in with the new.......well removing and cleaning today,may install tomorrow.
and if your wondering where im getting my donor glass parts.....i have a old 24ft trojan cabin cruiser i started cutting up to get sheets of glass for my last boat project.you can see it in the back ground of 1 of the pics.i rebuilt my dads 19x8 carolina skiff from that trojans sidewalls.....no wood to rot.uilt his complete console,transom braces 7/8 thick,and bilge system all from salvaged glass.

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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby igotit » Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:41 am

didnt get to the transom today,but i did cut out the 3x4x6.5" thwart brackets today,i just tacked them in with 1 layer 2.5oz cloth and resin.going to let them cure overnight.
hopefully i have decent weather tomorrow to remove the wood and finish the glass work to make the mounts solid.....and maybe handle the transom.

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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby GreenLake » Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:25 pm

Interesting, your thwarts are now a bit angled. AFAIK that's not typical, but my make it easier to straddle the CB trunk.
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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby igotit » Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:50 pm

It was a steeper angle,i forced it down alittle.anyfurther down and it was bending the seats,i coulda loosened the screws to drop it lower,but like it is wont hurt anything.
The above picture was before i tacked it in place they are about 1" lower than pictured.
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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby GreenLake » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:08 pm

ok.
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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby kokko » Mon Jun 08, 2020 5:03 pm

Greetings from Truelove, #3395 in St Paul, mn
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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby igotit » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:59 pm

kokko wrote:Greetings from Truelove, #3395 in St Paul, mn



hello .......our hulls are very close relatives,im in a little town called Chauvin Louisiana on the gulf coast.
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Re: New member with a 1968 DS1

Postby igotit » Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:07 pm

finally had a break in the weather,applied a few more layers on the fiberglass thwart mounts,and had just enough time to throw in the transom before the sunlight started to run away.
hopefully tomorrow i can remove the temp brace and and add atleast 2 more layers of 2.5 oz to try and get the transom close to 1/2 thick solid glass and cloth.
think ill call the thwart mounts good aswell,they are solid and support my 190lbs standing directly on the fiberglass brackets without the wood installed.
in a few days ill come back and sand away all the overflow resin from ontop the paint,because if i dont it will peel un chip on its own.resin has no strength without cloth or mat.
once im happy shes sanded smooth enough ill add paint.then ill go pick a windy day n go motor the lake to be sure everything is strong enough to handle the lakes chop.
my goal is to be ready to sail by mid july at the latest.

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