DS I vs. DS II

[jmyers]

Hi there. I'm currently in the market for a boat and was looking at both a DS I and DS II in the area. Could someone give me a brief synopsis of the differences? Also, I am planning to moor this boat and sail it singlehanded mostly. Which is a better, safer boat for this? Thanks!

Jason
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[jmyers]

Hi. To add to that, the DS II I looked at today didn't have a traveler line on the transom although there was some hardware present to suggest that it should. Is a traveler used on the transom or am I thinking of other boats? Also, if there is a traveler line there, would it interfere with a motor mounted on the transom? Sorry, lots of questions but the information would be most helpful. Thanks!


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[shawn]

The DS II has the self-bailing hull liner which would make it alot easier to rescue, if you were to capsize. The DS II generally had midboom sheeting for the mainsheet but alot of people have modified them for a simple traveler on the transom. This can create a conflict with an outboard hung on the transom but if you use a bracket it shouldn't be a problem.

Shawn

[bkafer]

If your putting your boat on a mooring, and you get a storm
that drives the rain under your cover. The DS2 is self bailing.
You don't have to worry about it sinking.

[jmyers]

Great, thanks folks. Just to clarify then about the traveler line on the stern. Its not necessary? What's the advantage of having one? Thanks again!

Jason
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[shawn]

It's just about having control over the shape of the mainsail. The midboom sheeting is very low in the boat and provides alot of down force but little side force when trying to sheet the boom up to the centerline. I use a wire traveler on the transom (similar to a sunfish) where a fixed block is about 6 inches under the boom. You might be able to see it in my photo's in the gallery section under shawn. This allows me to sheet the main to almost the centerline without tightening the leech like a drum. I use the vang to control that. This makes a noticeable improvement in pointing and and sail shape. With a couple of modifications I can make it an adjustable traveler and really pull it up to the centerline and beyond but I can't really justify that except when racing.

Good Luck,
Shawn
DSII 10542

[algonquin]

Here is a link to a little more discussion on the differences. Brad

http://forum.daysailer.org/forum/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=

[talbot]

The hardware that "suggests" a stern traveller on a DS II may be blocks for a spinnaker sheet and guy. Are they two Schaeffer swivel blocks mounted outboard of the combing? Check your mast to see if it has a pad eye on the leading edge for holding the spinnaker pole. You can use these blocks to make a traveller, but I eventually mounted my traveller to new pad eyes that I through-bolted to the transom.

By the way, a secondary benefit of a stern traveller is that it gives you a place to add some more mechanical advantage. I have owned two DSII's, both of which came with the original center sheeting. I think O'Day's running rigging was ridiculously underpowered for the mainsail. Or I'm just a wimp. Anyway, by adding a fiddle block on the stern traveller and a ratchet on the CB trunk at the cleat, I made both boats much easier to sail in strong winds.