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Re: This is BAD

Postby talbot » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:02 pm

All the DS masts I've ever seen have the shrouds attached to the mast with steel tangs that take 3 SS rivets each. There are other types of fittings, but they all involve rivets.
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Re: This is BAD

Postby Salty Dog » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:59 pm

OK Thanks Talbot

I have a air rivet gun I need to use, that should be the ticket.
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Re: This is BAD

Postby Salty Dog » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:28 am

I could not remember how the shrouds were attached. ( I'm 5 1/2 hrs away from my boat.) But Breaking wind has a very good pic. of the mast/tang/shroud attachment in his pic album. It looks like you could change shrouds with out changing tangs , but I guess if you are in the refurbish mode you might as well change out both. in case the rivets are weak from age.

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Re: This is BAD

Postby jeadstx » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:55 pm

If the tangs are alright, you should only need to attach the new stays/shrouds with the clevis pin and cotter pin or split ring.

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Re: This is BAD

Postby ldeikis » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:58 pm

jeadstx wrote:If the tangs are alright, you should only need to attach the new stays/shrouds with the clevis pin and cotter pin or split ring.

John


When the mast comes down a second time later that same season because your just-inspected rivets failed, you will feel like a fool. Don't ask me how I know. Redo them.

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Re: This is BAD

Postby Alan » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:29 am

My mast came down for reasons unrelated to tang rivets (OK, I admit it, I ran it into a power line in some trees), but maybe because of that I'm overly cautious.

How can you tell if your original-equipment rivets are good? Even with a proper two-handed riveting tool and stainless rivets (both of which I have), how do you know if you'd be better off leaving well enough alone?
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Re: This is BAD

Postby GreenLake » Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:59 pm

Using stainless rivets you need to manage dissimilar metals corrosion. For example isolating the rivet using Tef-Gel. The original rivets were aluminum (at least for some instances of original) and therefore have no galvanic issues at the mast / rivet interface, although they are in contact with the SS tang. The situation for SS rivet in aluminum and aluminum rivet in SS incidentally is said to not be symmetric. Can't for the life of me remember which way around was more problematic.
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