Woodie - DS1 project

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Re: Woodie - DS1 project

Postby lemsteraak » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:38 pm

The hull may be symmetrical, but the inside liner on the old DS1's aren't. I got a little frustrated measuring, and of course, it is a boat so there aren't any right angles and lots of curves. I'm going to have to do this by eye

I milled up some red cedar to for the seat cleats and am plan to work my way aft starting with the thwarts. The recycled floorboards are quite thin so the starting piece is a nice piece of teak to act as a bullnose. I'm leaving room in front of the seats for a place to stand and to put your feet if the crew wants to sit facing forward. We get enough strange bruises so the first rule is to avoid sharp edges. Then the first piece of recycled floorboards.

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Yes, the wood is narrow so I'm going to cut to size and then join. I'm not sure how to join long thin old twisted pieces of floorboards but no doubt it will come to me. I was going to build the support frame first ..... I'm going to have to wing it and build the seats then support it.
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Re: Woodie - DS1 project

Postby GreenLake » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:08 am

lemsteraak wrote:The hull may be symmetrical, ....


Make that "intended to be". :)

That's why people use cardboard (or plywood) templates so much when working on boats.
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Re: Woodie - DS1 project

Postby GreenLake » Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:22 am

lemsteraak wrote:Yes, the wood is narrow so I'm going to cut to size and then join. I'm not sure how to join long thin old twisted pieces of floorboards but no doubt it will come to me. I was going to build the support frame first ..... I'm going to have to wing it and build the seats then support it.


Curious as to what you settle on for joining these?

Easiest would be to duplicate the old floor boards, that is separate strips with cross members. A few cross members at locations between the planned supports would allow you to keep them all together while attaching the whole seat to the supports.

Don't think any attempt to glue the strips into a single plank will work if the strips are "twisted", but if there's a small gap between strips a slight amount of warp can be accommodated.
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Re: Woodie - DS1 project

Postby lemsteraak » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:17 pm

I'm planning to make the seats a little generous. I've been toying with the idea of expanding the concept to make Woodie a gentlemen's racer to take on the Nationals in two years, but also a camp cruiser. The problem with a camp cruiser is just where to sleep. The standard for an offshore sailboat bunk is to make the head area 22" and the foot 12" so I'm going to expand the benches to 15 1/2 inches tapering to 11 1/2 inches. This doesn't take into account the thwart area which is wider. Should be a moderately comfortable area to take a nap or an overnight in a pinch.
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Here are the boards laid out, untrimmed to get an idea of the layout

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The proposed cockpit layout and I'm also thinking of having a bit of a wood cap on the centerboard trunk

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The recycled floorboards are a bit on the thin side at a little under 1/2 inch so I have to build a subframe. The edge of the seats will have the thicker teak board as a bullnose. It is standing proud now but will be flush when cut to size. The subframe will be paneled with a thin red cedar similar to the cuddy bulkhead to create buoyancy tanks below the seats. Now on to the subframe .....
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Re: Woodie - DS1 project

Postby GreenLake » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:58 pm

Instead of making the seats wider (or in addition to it) you might think about an "infill".

The downside of making the seats wider is of course that it affects the space you can put your legs. Whether the original dimensions represent an optimum I'll leave as an open question, but at some point you'll run into a limit. I'm sure you tested that.

Now, there have been several people here who built boards that can be used to fill in the gap between seat and centerboard for a very nice sleeping platform. Any board, of course, is potentially awkward to store on a boat. However, it turns out, that if you dimension the length so it fits across the boat before the transom, it's quite out of the way there (and you can slide it forward a bit and suddenly you have a space where you can sit facing forward (or almost forward).

I've sailed on a boat like that and while we camped on land, that secondary use of this board was highly welcome after a few long days on the water. Add a cushion and you also further elevate your seating position: again something that works well on long stretches (particularly downwind ones -- which would fit your plan of doing gentlemanly sailing :) )
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