ID Plate

[jeadstx]

I tried searching for an answer to my question but couldn't find what I was looking for. This isn't really a Daysailer question, but I figured the DS1 folks might be able to help. I have a DS2 so I can't use it for reference. I picked up an early 1960's Rhodes 19 yesterday and the ID Plate is missing. I seem to remember reading someplace (i think on this site) that an O'Day hull number is stamped somewhere on the boat other than the plate. Since the early R19 is similar to the early DS1 I thought they might share similar data plates. The boat is complete, but missing the mainsail (it has a jib tho) so I can't get the class number off that. I'm needing to try to get the numbers to register the boat. I'd also like to make a new ID Plate if needed in the future (by me or someone else). Can anyone send me a picture of an ID Plate (with thier numbers blotted out). I would like to get this boat back in the water, it hasn't been in the water in 13 years, and I hate seeing a good boat go to waste.

John

[GreenLake]

I've never been able to find a hull number on my DS1, so very early boats may not have had the stamped in number.

[navahoIII]

My DSI , built in 1961, does have a nameplate (that includes hull and sail numbers) on the transom coaming. It also has the hull number stamped into a thin metal strip (probably aluminum) that sticks out from the inner hull between the cuddy and the port side bench.

Maybe yours has something like that somewhere in the hull. The sail number is the one you want though, right? The two are not the same. For instance my hull number is 6555 and the sail number is 1001...

[jeadstx]

Thanks for the responses. I know the two numbers are different. A hull number might give me an idea of the build year at least. With that the Rhodes 19 Assocation might have records on the sail number. I'm asking these questions on the Daysailer site since the Rhodes 19 site doesn't seem very informative and not nearly as active as this site. I would think marking locations for the R19 and the DS1 for the early 60's would be similar. I look for the metal tag when I pick up the boat Saturday.

John

[GreenLake]

@Navaho

If I understood you correctly, I would look on the inside where the deck seam is, on the level where the rubrail is on the outside, aft of the cuddy shelves and forward of the seat.

I saw nothing, took some photos that also show nothing.

Mine is most likely a '63 (see lengthy discussion elsewhere why I believe that).

The other magic place was supposed to be an impression in the ouside of the hull, rather far forward below the SB rubrail.

[ctenidae]

The other magic place was supposed to be an impression in the ouside of the hull, rather far forward below the SB rubrail.

I can say quite definitively that no such number exists on my (probably) 1962 sail number (probably) 1114.

Have to look for evidence of the metal tag, but I think I would have spotted that by now.

[Baysailer]

John,

I have a Rhodes 19 as well as the DS. It's registered as a 65, Sail #1320, Hull # 12427. The plate should be located at the bulkhead face on the front of the cockpit. There is no stamp on the hull in those days so you may be out of luck. If you PM me I can probably help you get close for the year and pick your own numbers and make a replacement plate. Your right the Rhodes site isn't nearly as active or informative as this one.

Fred

[Kleanbore]

Hello John,
Are the registration numbers still on the bow? If so, go to the boating section of the TPWD website and use the request ownership information link https://apps.tpwd.state.tx.us/tora/jump.jsf and enter the registration number. The hull ID will be listed along with the PO info.
Good luck,
Kerry

[Kleanbore]

Hello John,
I just checked the website using the registration number on the pictures you sent and the serial number for the hull is 02910907 and the boat is listed as a 1962
PO is in Miami FL
Take care,
Kerry

[navahoIII]

GrrenLake,

The metal strip is actually on the side (inside) of the hull. I don't recall exactly where and the boat is in another state right now. Anyway, It is definitely not coming from the seam where the topsides and hull meet.

[jeadstx]

It would actually make sense that there may be a marking on the hull and somewhere near a deck seam. Since the hull and the deck are molded separate, there would probably have been a build number on each so the right deck could joined to hull it was suppose to go on. It would help to be able to inventory parts in the shop. Just a thought.

I'm going to check out possible places when I get the boat to the house on Saturday.

Thanks for all the responses.
John

[jeadstx]

Got the boat home. Checked in all the suggested places and can't find any numbers but when I get a chance next weekend to clean out all the leaves that have collected in it, I'll look some more. I'm going to be carefull in removing the leaves in case there is a tag that has fallen in amongst them at some point. Thanks again for the input.

John